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A predominant theme in environmental philosophy is the claim that we need to correct an anthropocentric bias in our attitudes to the nonhuman world, and in particular to extend moral concern across time and across species. This is the central claim of 'deep ecology', which maintains that the uncritical acceptance of anthropocentric values has abetted reprehensible practices with respect to the nonhuman world. In this paper I argue this central claim of 'deep ecology' is mistaken and provide a defence of qualified anthropocentrism. "
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Cities are at the centre of the storm of ecological destruction. Everything in the biosphere is connected and cities are part of the global ecosystem. They embody the values of the civilisation that produced them. Industrial civilisation has exploited the environment and the community to leave us with cities which suck their hinterlands dry. City and country are interdependent and each city's hunger for land to feed, house and fuel its growing population has been exacerbated by industrial colonialism so that cities now spread across the face of the planet like a cancer. more � "
The 666th Extinction -- Essay by Lion Kuntz: "The 666th Extinction

Essay by Lion Kuntz

March 13, 2000

This essay uses religious symbolism the way NASA uses religious symbolism (e.g., SATAN rocket engine, APOLLO moon missions, GEMINI orbital experiments, etc.) The Biblical Apocalypse predicted 'fire from the sky' and the subsequent 'Death of one quarter of all the living creatures of the land and sea'. Modern science is predicting twice that, or the death of half of all species on earth within a century from now. One quarter of all mammals are presently threatened or endangered. Science predicts that ozone holes and global warming will be significant factors in the mass die-offs in this 21st century, which is fire falling from the sky even in an atheist's book. It is reasonable than to use the apocalyptic number of the beast 666 to describe this current event.
Farming has contributions to make to either saving biodiversity, or hastening it onwards into the abyss. Unless sustainable ecological-friendly practices are adopted, the trend is inevitably towards huge reductions (impoverishment) of the global ecology life support systems. Things now taken for granted, such as rain in due season, songbirds in the sky, butterflies, fresh air and fresh waters may disappear, forever. "
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Illustration of a NEW ECOCITY

Dawn of New Cities

4 square kilometers (2.54 square miles)
119,000 residents

21 hectares (blocks) of Heavy Industry (factories, junkyards, foundries, smelters, etc.)

21 Hectares of Public Use Spaces (government bldgs, parks, convention center, museums, etc.)

170 Hectares of Mixed Use Bldgs (residential, shops, offices, storage, workshops, light industry, dispersed government functions (post offices, schools, police substations, etc.))

374 Hectares Residential Occupancy

163 Hectares of Private Patios

City is built in a grid of 15 by 15 blocks, with 14 by 14 dividing streets and one ring-road around the perimeter. Perimeter is assumed to be greenbelt area, so no residential building is farther than two blocks to the closest park. Almost half of all buildings are tangent to a park. From the geographic center of the city it is one kilometer to the city limits (7.5 blocks), every other point is closer to the wide-open spaces, and can be reached in less than 15 minutes walk. It takes 30 minutes to walk from one side of the city to the opposite side. There are 170 blocks of indoor malls, all climate controlled. 80% of all commute destinations are within 8 blocks. Many commutes terminate downstairs. Within one block of every residence is 861,000 square feet (80,000 square meters) of shops, restaurants, offices, and services.

Ecovillage: 5,600 residents, 861,112 sq.ft. commercial spaces, 45 acres of Residential Space:

"Ecovillage: 5,600 residents, 861,112 sq.ft. commercial spaces, 45 acres of Residential Space.
One sixth of a square kilometer, 15.21 hectares of total land surface, 25.6 hectares of indoor floorspace, 8 hectares of public-use indoor ground floor spaces, 17.6 hectares of upper floor residential indoor floor spaces, 7.68 hectares of outdoor roof-deck patio spaces, 7.21 additional outdoor ground level public spaces including one hectare park within one block of every residence.
861,112 sq.ft of ground floor public spaces for churches, temples, theaters, supermarkets, cafeterias, restaurants, boutiques, shops, workshops, clinics, classrooms, gyms, health clubs, swimming pools, offices, bazaars, malls, take-out food, pet stores, storage units, post offices, court rooms, police substations, libraries, art galleries, karate studios, bakeries, cyber cafes, bars, nightclubs, bowling alleys, auditoriums, day care, pre-school, pawn shops, bike repair, copy shops, antiques, furniture, car dealers, convention center, exhibition hall."
Fertilizer & Animal Feed Value of Chicken Wastes:

"Fertilizer & Animal Feed Value of Chicken Wastes
The following is a collection of websites offering information about the N-P-K fertilizer value of chicken wastes (manures, litter, and processing byproducts), and/or other usage as feedstocks. URLs are top of each citation, followed by brief quote giving sample data from the webpage cited."
Growing Earthworms


Some Helpful Facts About Finding and Raising Earthworms
Because of the recent interest in knowing more about earthworms for home gardening, market gardening, and poultry feeding, I will share a few facts.

Earthworms may be bought from many suppliers at a fairly wide range of prices. You can, however, usually locate a starter breeding stock locally at no cost or at nominal expense in most parts of the temperate U.S.A.

The ideal earthworms are "red wrigglers", or "manure worms", known by the scientific name of "Eisenia Foetida". These worms commonly inhabit manure piles and compost heaps, usually at the bottom layers around the edges. Since they require well-aerated moist surroundings, these are the places to look for them. Rabbit manure piles are often free for the hauling (you load) at rabbit farms, and are particular favorite dwelling places for red worms.

There is an ample literature of manuals for raising red worms, especially by Shields Publications. One ought to get several of these books from the local library and read them before experimenting on your own.

Raising the worms is not difficult. One sheet of (recycled) plywood or OSB ripped into three strips of 18 inches by 8 feet long, where one strip is further divided into two 4 foot lengths, will side a wormery for less than $10 investment. (Use recycled scraps of 2"x4"s to join the corners.) Another sheet of plywood or OSB can make the top cover. This 32 square foot wormery can produce an eventual steady supply of 24 to 48 pounds of surplus worms every three months, plus also yield a ton of high-value plant fertilizer (worm "castings") quarterly. (Pure worm castings, sold in 1 cubic foot plastic bags, retail for $9.27 at Harmony Farm Supply catalog in Sebastopol, California. The wormery example described above produces 32 cubic feet of these castings every 90 days.)

Those people needing larger productivity of worm yields or plant fertilizers can make a second, third, or many more additional worm bins.

Insulating the worm bins against cold weather can be done simply and inexpensively. Straw bales or spoiled hay bales (about $1 each throughout many parts of the USA) have an insulation value of R24 to R47 rating depending on whether they are laid strings up or strings sideways. These bales, after weathering out in the rain and snow all winter, can then be added to the wormery as bedding for next crops of worms in nicer weather. Adding fresh manures into the (insulated) wormery generates bioheat which can keep the worms active and productive all winter in their nice warm, energy-cost-free wormery.

Manures normally would be heaped along one half of the wormery, giving the worms the option of burrowing into it or retreating out of it depending on the temperature of the bioheat of the bacterial decompostion of the manures. If frosts occur slowly enough, earthworms can freeze solid and return to life when thawed, but fast frozen worms will be killed from ice crystals which puncture the cells -- these will never regain life.

Worms prefer moderate temperatures aound 72 degrees Farenheit, and in nature are most productive (procreative) in the spring and fall. Protection from summer heat is as important as protection from winter cold. Freezing and drying-out both will absolutely kill earthworms, although their eggs survive these conditions for much longer than the worms themselves do.

It takes five months growth before any worm can enter reproductive activity, but much longer to finish to full adult growth. Worms can only mate with other worms about their own size, so 5 month old worms cannot mate with 12 month old worms because of the size differences.

However, every two worms of the similar size can cross-mate, with each one fertilizing the other and both getting pregnant. Eggs are emitted in small capsules, containing 1 to 24 eggs each. The average is said to be 2 eggs per capsule, but that varies according to how favorable conditions are kept for the worms. From the mating act to egg hatching takes about 30 days, but the capsules are shed in 10 days, allowing multiple matings per worm per month. As you can see, if given favorable conditions, worms can multiply very quickly.

Worms purchased from mail order houses will vary from all mature adult breeders to mixtures containing all ages from fresh hatched to adult. The mail order quantities will be about 1,000/pound of adults to 2,000/pound "bed run" (mixtures of all ages). Worms procured from manure piles will be similarly mixtures of all ages.

The important thing to remember is that every worm will eat its weight in food daily, regardless of how small or how large it is, and many small worms will contribute the same value of worm castings as any equal weight of full grown breeders. As feed stock for poultry they also are equal, pound for pound regardless of size.

Since it takes five months of growing before initial breeding, there is an waiting period before regular harvesting should begin, but once one has a plentiful supply of all ages in the pipeline, then harvesting may continue perpetually.

Feeding the earthworms, and providing them "soilless bedding", are areas of much diversity and exuberant claims. Consensus among successful long-time worm breeders (multi-million worm operations continuing for many years) is that cardboard makes an ideal bedding and adequate feedstock, straw makes a good bedding but poor feed, rabbit manure is best feed followed by horse manure mixed with stall bedding.

The internet is full of websites showing worms bedded on compost, garbage, shredded paper, fed all manner of grass clippings, cafeteria wastes, supermarket spoilages and crop residues. At some point, every organic thing is in a condition of decay suitable for toothless worms to process.

Eathworm castings can be used as mulch around the base of plants, where watering carries nutrients down to the feeder rootlets. Plants have been shown to rapidly colonize worm casting with dense networks of roothairs. Visually, plants can be observed to "perk up" within a day or two of application. There is no toxic limit of worm castings, and they will not cause "fertilizer burn" no matter how much you use. Plants can be grown in pure castings, although I am not recommending this, nor suggesting it, merely citing that it has been demonstrated by credible scientists. There is no danger to plants by using any amounts of worm castings, and interesting scientific findings showing markedly improved growth of plants by feeding them small amounts of worm castings has been demonstrated by top university scientists.

I hope someone finds these facts interesting and helpful in getting started down the road of freedom away from dependancy on store-bought factory-made fertilizers that damage the future.

Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
Additional worm help at URL:

See additional webpages:

Earthworm Culture and Castings: LINKS:

"Earthworm Culture and Castings: LINKS
More Global Helpful Earthworm Info Sources
Here are some website references to fun and interesting earthworm facts from around the world. Each website URL is followed by a brief exerpt to give a hint of the more information in that topic to be found on that webpage. This is part of my continuing effort to introduce natural organic farming/gardening helpful ideas.
Enjoy the tour,
Sincerely, Lion Kuntz "
LINKS: Worm Castings (Vermicompost) Fertilizer Value:
"Worm Castings (Vermicompost) Fertilizer Value
This is a collection of website links for earthworm castings (vermicompost) nutrient value as fertilizer and soil amendments. Obviously, earthworms cannot do transmutation from one element to another, so the tested values reflect the feedstock input into the earthworm colony. Yelm wormfarm uses primarily dairy cow manure, which incorporates alfalfa and clover hays for trace minerals not found in the same quantities in other tested worm castings. This is the reason that there can be so much variation in test results. An overall average from many sources gives a sense of the usual expectations one should have when using worm castings as soil amendments or fertilizer. "
Can 10,000,000 Organic Farmers Feed America?

An essay by Lion Kuntz

March 11, 2000

Can 10,000,000 Organic Farmers Feed America? Yes, if they do it the Ecological Synergy(tm) way. Ecological Synergy is sustainable farming for the next 10,000 years, which is higher-yield than row-cropping by four to twelve times the productivity on selected crops, They can do it on 50,000,000 acres of land (about one-fourth the amount of land currently under cultivation for agriculture in the United States), each working about 40 hours per week year-round, for an income of about $15.00 per hour. A single grower should expect a gross income after paying farming-related expenses to be about $30,000 per year. A couple (husband and wife) both working 40 hour weeks can double that income on typically five acres of cultivated property in good climate regions. In addition to the income as much as $5,000 of premium quality food "grown in their backyard" will go on their table adding a benefit beyond taxable income. Some of the costs of home-ownership are tax-deductable for working professional farmers living on their farmstead.

Antagonists to Organic farming have leveled many complaints against the style of Organic farming they have observed. Many of these complaints are true, but they are not complaints which apply to Ecological Synergy. There are money-hungry people who ply the agricultural publishing markets who have powerful selfish interests to preserve, and some of these people have made attacks on the Organic farm movement to influence the voting public to choose sides against the Organic farming methods.

The public has more choices to make than between just two sides. Money has been a corruption throughout society, and throughout the long history of money in all cultures. The public more-or-less knows this fact. O.J. Simpson and the Tobacco lobby bought all the experts they needed to create doubts about the truth of life-and-death matters.

On the other side, people typically paint the best, most rosey picture they can, hiding the negatives, and this includes both the Organic farm movement and the anti-organic critics. This essay is going to try to clear away some of the tainted rhetoric and describe things which can be abundantly proven to be true.

Farming is a world-changing enterprise. There has never been a city or a civilization anywhere which did not depend on farming for its existence. But farming has caused calamities of great proportion, including the demise of great cities and ecosystems when performed contrary to the ecological limits of the bioregion. The archeological diggings at the Biblical city of Ephesus show that the city was moved repeatedly as eco-disasters caused by bad farming erodes away the soil-base and silted up the harbor. Giant extinct species of "Cedars of Lebanon" once forested the now-desertified "holy land" as described used in the building of Solomon's temple. Bad land-stewardship has occurred in the past, and undoubtably there were people advocating permission to cut just one more stand of ancient trees to "preserve jobs", while five hundred succeeding generations have lived away their lives in the impoverished environment that was once lush.

Farmers need to be involved in solving the problems of the 21st century, and where their actions are causing problems, they need to face up to a responsibility to make changes in their practices for the benefit of the future and the rest of contemporary society.

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Subject: [Palaces4People] Re: Palaces For The People -- in Mendocino County?

Re: Palaces For The People -- in Mendocino County?
--- In, "Michael
DeWolf" wrote:
> Lion Kuntz,
> Have you considered things like drywall?
> You can't have spaced-toothpick walls.
> What about taxes? What about making things
vandalism-proof? Seems to
> me that someone could cut through dozens of floor
joists in minutes -
> and the small size would make it tempting.
> To be honest with you, I've been waiting for someone
to come out with
> something like this. I cringe when people talk
about affordable
> housing as smaller, more affordable single-unit
> Affordable housing, and multi-unit housing is one
and the same thing!
> Michael Dewolf

I am anticipating that the structural soundness of the
flooring would make vandalism more difficult than in
most buildings. The flooring I am considering (and
engineering tests are not going to begin for months,
let alone already concluded) is a multilayer

There are three sizes of "Octet Girders", from one
foot depth to perhaps 1.5 inches. The basic structure
is triangulated. Between each triangulated main girder
is a triangulated grid of a smaller size, and between
each triangulated grid in that size is yet another
triangulated grid. The effect looking up is a waffled
set of beams, although the whole thing can be
concealed behind a suspended ceiling. The Octet Truss
beams are themselves encased in a cementitious
material, but not necessarily portland cement. It
appears that geopolymers are much more CO2
emissions-free and have some basic structural
advantages over portland cement.

There are two formulas for geoploymers currently
protected by patents. If I want to use either of those
I either pay cash to the amount of the asking price of
the patent owner, or I offer a valuable invention of
my own to the geopolymer patent owner, which adds
value to their invention and consequently brings them
back a satisfactory amount. In order to go the second
route I have to save a valuable idea from escaping
into the public domain, so that it has trade value in
wheeling-dealing with inventors who have the real
goods. Charity to the "community" is all nice and
dandy, but if it harms a project by giving away the
trade value to obtain a necessity, than "charity" to
the lessor needy deprives charity to the more needy. I
won't make that sacrifice.

From the top, looking down, the floors are flat. On
these floors is a sandwich of materials, again,
probably involving some geopolymers. Geopolymers are
artificial stone of the kind known as zeolites.
Although it is artificially composed, or made, it is
identical to real stone: completely fireproof, does
not emit smoke on extended contact with flame, does
not conduct heat very well.

The top layer of flooring is likely to initially be
ceramic floor times. Residents may choose to add
carpeting or other flooring eventually, but for 100+
lifespan, ceramic tiling is a primary choice.

Vandals will have to penetrate six layers or more of
very hard materials, and then they can only damage
small spots at a time. The triple triangulation of the
floor joists is designed to withstand earthquakes
beyond 8.0, and has redundant strength unimaginable in
lesser building methods.

The concept of 560,000 psi tensile strength is just
outside of human experience. It can't be imagined by
most people. Yet that is the rated strength of 144,000
tiny fibers per inch of a 12x12 weave carbon fabric.
Toothpick struts of an octet truss are unimaginably

The original octet truss was invented by Alexander
Graham Bell, but forgotten for decades. Buckminster
Fuller rediscovered it and patented it in 1962. Again
it has been largely forgotten for decades, with only
800 hits on out of over 3 billion webpages.

Based on the OCtahedron and TETrahedron space frame,
octet trusses by themselves do a tremendous job of
converting tension to compression, and compression to
tension, through a twelve-way intersection of forces
distributions. I have figured out how to increase the
strengths of OCTET trusses by at least four times,
using materials unknown in Bucky's time. Things which
were physically impossible to accomplish can now be
made routine.

In order to make use of the Octet Truss as a workhorse
for Palaces I had to invent a mass production methods
to make them in the quantities needed. This ranks as
one of those valuables which can he horse-traded for
geoploymer rights, so don't ask specifics -- invent
your own mass production method. I went further and
invented machines which can use modern pultrusion
methods for robotically mass producing octets and my
improved versions -- again invent your own, or wait
until Home Depot has them in stacks in the "lumber

I went through a series of highly detailed views from
every angle, and posted them on my website, so you
have a lot more information to work with than I had
when I started. That's my "backup": if I croak before
I accomplish my Palaces plan, others can figure out
what I didn't show from what I did show. I am just
keeping my head start, because I haven't croaked yet,
and Palaces has first dibs on my best ideas.

No good argument has been put forward why drywall
needs to be considered.

Toothpicks might hold up a wall. I have not proposed
that. I proposed concrete posts with a rating of 3,000
psi, embedded tops and bottoms in bond beams,
otherwise called "ring beams" even when they are not
in a ring, with several alternatives as the infill. I
explored, and published these considerations, AECT
compressed earth blocks with 140,000 pounds of
compression strength per block, as infill between
concrete posts. I also explored, and published,
considerations of using octet trusses with various
fillers as infill between posts. Some fillers for
octet truss sections could be shotcrete, adobe mud
("cob") or papercrete. I have also considered many
other structures, including bamboo where it is
available as indifenous material.

The reality I deal with is this: I intend to go
forward and get enough of these built that scoffers
die of humiliation. I do not intend to ever open my
newspaper and read that an earthquake or force five
hurricane came along and thousands died. The
engineering studies will be ruthless and rigorous,
occuring in well qualified university engineering
laboratories which do contract work for governments
and industry. The engineering studies will occur on
several continents. Nobody will get away with
publishing rigged or flawed testing results.
Engineering studies will probably begin in several
months from now.

Again, I need to reserve trade goods to wheel and deal
with the test labs, so again, everybody has to wait
until my sense of timing says "now".

I just published the first installment of the "Orissa
Subject: The ORISSA Budget -- Part #1
Subject: ORISSA weblog #1 -- Data for the Orissa
Subject: ORISSA weblog #2 -- Data for the Orissa

You will find the complete documentation that Palaces
For The People is feasible in Orissa, India, one of
the poorest places on earth. You will find that the
housing built after the force five super-cyclone of
1999, providing housing of only 12 square meters per
family, used more exterior walls than are called for
in a Palace.

The larger 25 m2 homes used 760 more meters of
exterior walling.

There is still a lot of math and engineering and
problem solving to bring down Palaces costs to the
range of US$ 632 per housing unit, but you will see
from this start (that's why it's called "Part #1")
that these are in the range of solvable problems.

I want to thank you all for being interested enough in
my little project to have commented on it at all.
Thanks to your talking it up,
has added 50 new links to my proposal since I started:

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Searched the web for "Palaces For The People".
Results 1 - 100 of about 390. Search took 0.68

Less than one month ago there were 340 hits on google,
according to the record I made in the first message of
the Palaces For The People yahoo group:

There were 371 links a week ago:

Little by little the intangible is being brought into
tangible reality, and you are helping that to happen.
Even "negative" energy is being used for positive

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Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
Santa Rosa, California, USA
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